Chatroom – Our Loving Creator

This week, I want you to discuss what impacted you the most in this chapter (cite at least one passage). The love of God is incredibly vast, so focus on something that God reveals about His love through creation.

How does this knowledge affect your relationship with God and with others?

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  1. The young ladies at Highlandville were impressed by the fact that even before creation, God knew what the outcome would be, and He created us anyway.

        1. Great verse. God didn’t love us because we were easy to love, did He? We are called to imitate this. Look at Luke 6:31-36. Do we get any credit if we love the people who love us? Who loves those who are easy to love?

          1. No, I know that sometimes we can be very annoying. Also no then they do not want to love us. If any one loves then at times whomever they love will be hard to love

          2. True! We have to step beyond the kind of love the “sinners” show, and imitate Christ’s love. What are some practical ways we can love those who don’t love us?

          1. How does this effect the way we interact with the church? Some people say “give me Jesus but not His church.” Does this hold up with Ephesians 3:9-10? Should this change our faithfulness to the assembly?

          2. no It says it was hidden from the beginning of the ages and now we get to be a part of that which has been hidden.

          3. There are two specific analogies in the Bible about the relationship between Christ and His church. Can ya’ll come up with either of them? (and I may be missing some, so I’m excited to see which one’s you find!)

  2. um… I think, for me, that the most powerful part of this chapter was thinking about God having already known, before creating man, the tremendous sacrifice that it would take, to save us and keep us as His children. Revelation 13:8 says He was “slain from the foundation of world” and it’s a very powerful thing to me, to think that God created man even though He would be hated, by his own creation that he gave His own Son for… And for me personally it makes me wonder how I ever felt the nerve to turn from Him to my own way instead of trusting Him and obeying the one who gave His most precious possession for me…

    1. Excellent verse. For me personally, this is one of the most powerful motivations for obedience. For some reason, I think we tend to think of the precious blood of Jesus as God’s afterthought, or backup plan. Jesus was the plan for all of eternity. The last part of your comment made me think of 1 Peter 1:17-21. What does Peter say we should know…?

      1. ”… that you were not redeemed with corrouptible things, like silver or gold from your aimless conduct recieved by tradition from your fathers but with the precious blood of Christ w/o blemish & w/o spot

      2. I love those verses. We were redeemed “with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot”
        I don’t know how we can truly process this and still be disobedient. But, obviously, that’s very easy at times!

          1. Perfect! I haven’t gotten there yet, you’re ahead of me! 🙂

            Taking this discussion of the blood a step further…using Hebrews 10:26-31, think about what we do to the precious blood when we willfully sin.

          2. They scare me as well. Hebrews 6:1-8 build on this as well. What else do we do to Christ when we choose to willfully sin?

          3. so I have a question for you… Those verses aren’t talking about like singular willful sin, but a life of willful sin, right?

          4. EXCELLENT question Lindsey. We have to remember that Hebrews 6 is not the picture of a Christian who makes a mistake…(even a willful mistake). Hebrews 6 is talking about the Christian who FALLS AWAY (or to say it another way, stops walking in the light). Now, look at 1 John 1:5-10. What happens to our sins if we are walking in the light?

      3. Great point Lindsey. Sin takes a distortion of the mind, and a false way of thinking. When we believe the truth, it effects every area of our lives. When we buy into lies, that’s when we forget about the precious blood of the lamb. What are some lies that we tend to buy into?

        1. Our girls say… 1) believing that a young man struggling because of our immodest clothing is not our fault.
          2) That “little” things won’t hurt or lead to bigger things… watching something you shouldn’t watch, one “little” lie, etc.

          1. Our girls also say just like eating one “cotton candy” grape leads you to eat too many… (not that we’re doing that).

          2. Those are very common lies in our society, and unfortunately, even in the church. What are some practical things we can do to fight those lies? The main key is in Romans 12:1-3.

          3. We are discussing that we should constantly be transforming our mind through regular Bible study… we are also discussing all the different ways to constantly keep the Word in our lives, such as reminders on our phone and different resources.

          4. That is so practical! I believe that our generations have the LEAST excuse for not knowing our Bibles. Through our phones, we have the Bible in our hands CONSTANTLY. Yet, we know our Bibles less than previous generations. Let’s use our phones for good <3

            Also, consider Hebrews 12:1-3 (this is specifics of Romans 12:1-3).

          5. Thank you for admitting that! I think we all fall into that temptation at times. Sin is so accessible to us, it’s difficult to say no at times. Hebrews 12:1-3 tells us that the key to laying aside that sin is looking to Jesus. His love for us keeps us from desiring sin!

            Also, accountability partners are wonderful to have. James 5:16 tells us to confess our sins to one another!

      1. Was God the Father alone in the creation? – No, He was not. Genesis 1:26-27, we see that God is speaking to someone, and uses the phrase “our likeness.”

        Who was there with God in the beginning? – Even if it is not clear who is with God in the beginning, John 1:1-5 clarifies this. The Word was with God at creation…and as you read further in John 1, we find that the Word is the Son of God, the man Jesus.

        Through whom was the earth made? – The earth was made through Jesus, Colossians 1:16, John 1:3

        For whom was the Earth made? – The earth was made for Jesus – Colossians 1:16

        Who holds the earth together? – Jesus holds the earth together – Colossians 1:17

        What was the eternal purpose of God? – The church, which was carried out through Christ Jesus – Ephesians 3:9-11

        Did Jesus know He was going to have to die when He created the universe? Was it only after man sinned that God came up with the plan for Jesus to die? – Jesus did know, because the plan was in place for all of eternity (Ephesians 3:9-11). Therefore, it was in place BEFORE man sinned.

    1. something my family has found helpful in doing personal Bible study is not just telling someone “this is right, this is wrong” but asking a question and then saying “here read this verse, and based on that, what is the answer to the question?” there’s a wonderful three part study for non Christians, I believe it’s called Back To The Bible. we’ve used it in personal studies before and it’s very effective. Hope that’s helpful!
      the point is letting them find the answers themselves:)

    2. Lindsey brings up the essence of a proper Bible study! It is so important to lead them to the Scriptures, and allow them to find the answer themselves. This also keeps a Bible study from turning into an argument–it’s not your opinion against theirs, it’s an honest look at the Bible. Back to the Bible is great, and Fishers of Men is as well. There are MANY other great tools that will help you be able to lead a Bible study with a non-Christian. Also, don’t feel like you have to do it alone. Grab your friend, parent, elder etc., the person who (1) will be able to help you in your study, and will have scriptural contributions to add, and (2) will be able to make the person you’re studying with feel comfortable.

      As for actually getting someone to agree to a study, it is important to be bold and honest when asking them for a study…don’t try to be subtle or they may feel like you’re tricking them.” One of my favorite conversation starters is…”So tell me about where you worshipped growing up.” or “Tell me about your religious background.” From there, you can say something to the effect of “That is fascinating! I’d love to talk with you more. Would you be willing to open the Bible with me and discuss that?”

      Another great question, especially if it’s a close friend (where you already know their religious background) is: “Are you able to find much time to study your Bible?” If the answer if no, then you can say: “Life is so busy, I struggle with that too at times. Would you be open to finding a time once a week to get into the Word of God with me?” If the answer is yes, then you can say: “That’s wonderful! Would you like to spend some of that time studying with me?”

      There are many ways to get someone to study with you, and you will be surprised at how many people are willing to do it! I hope this helps. There are many aspects to holding a Bible study with someone, so if you have any more specific questions that I can address…please feel free to ask!!

  3. Ladies, thank you all for your wonderful input tonight! Time is officially up, but I will keep moderating as time allows. You had amazing insight, and great questions tonight, and I’m thankful for your hearts and time. Keep commenting and thinking through these things, and check back to see the new comments as the week goes! I’ll finish up going through React #2 tonight, see Kaitlyn’s post below.

      1. I’m so glad! Feel free to get on the chatroom anytime, and ask any questions you may have. There are a lot of study points, and different ways to take the material. If I can help at all, please let me know.

  4. God has provided everything for us so we need to realize that we are dependent and be thankful for what he has done. Jesus did not have to let the pharisees and scribes take him, drag him into court, strike him, spit in his face, take him to Pilot where He was sentenced to be flogged, then condemned to die, and taken up on the cross He was burdened by our sins till He cried ”It is finished”. I cant even begin to imagine having to go through that! It would be awful sometimes I feel we don’t realize what Christ actually did for us. This knowledge should affect us in our relationship with God to be more appreciative. And with others I realize we need to be more open with the gospel we need to take others to Heaven with us (that’s the only thing we can take with us). We need to show others the love of Christ tell them about what He did for us. Hopefully the can see his love, mercy, and forgiveness through us as well!
    P.S.
    I’m sorry I wasn’t present for the live chat I was at a teen devo at my youth ministers home.
    With the love of the Lord,
    Isabella Mason

    1. Thank you for your insightful comment! Jesus’ act on the cross is the ultimate expression of God’s love. He certainly didn’t have to do it, but He chose to. This makes creation even more meaningful, as Jesus knew He would die for us, even as He was creating us.

      I love how Genesis 2 describes, point by point, how we are dependent on God. It outlines all of the things that God gave to Adam, all things were crucial to his survival and ability to thrive. Thank you for bringing up our dependence!

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